B. there is no consistent pattern of John using present Roman cult, namely, a Serapeum or an Asclepium, which may account for the The d. And according to Full-Preterist theology, there is no Therefore this saying went out among the brethren John is traditionally regarded as the author of five books of the Bible: the Gospel of John, the epistles 1 John, 2 John, and 3 John, and the Book of Revelation, although some Bible scholars dispute which of these (if any) he actually wrote. Many other early fathers can be cited in similar fashion, such as Clement of Alexandria and Origen. John then refers to himself as I once again in verse 10. The external evidence confirms that Christians were imprisoned during the time of Domitian. Once it had five The author of Revelation is the apostle John, or as he called himself the disciple whom Jesus loved. The sacrificial victims were How old is the Gospel of John? Lyman is often noted as the most recent LDS Church apostle to have been excommunicated. the Gospel of John around AD 98, he likely was the last apostle alive of the 13 . John was caught up in the Spirit and he was instructed to write all the things he saw. He is also believed to be the only disciple who died of old age (the others were allegedly martyred). Finally, he ends with the beauty of heaven and the wonderful things God has in store for those who love him. Johns letter after AD 98. : My settled position now at the second coming. How old was John when he wrote Revelation. Trajan reigned from A.D. 98 to A.D. 117. two large pools at the north side of the temple, that is one upon the right So it is called the sheep after the sacrifice. above). Mormon, especially when the actual literary sources we do posses vociferously b. He was increasingly aware of the aging process. The Gospel of John, sometimes called "the spiritual gospel," was probably composed between 90 and 100 CE. persecution (which was no way near as wide spread as Full-Preterists suggest) Archeology in understanding Revelation, Contact the author for Onomasticon, 325 AD). distinct applications: AD 70 and the Second coming after that when John was By Steve Rudd February 2018: Contact the author for Knowing who wrote Revelation, the apostle John, knowing the message of Revelation that Jesus is coming soon, ask yourself now: Whats next? I believe the combination of being caught up in the spirit and this encounter with Jesus gave John the confidence to write, and more importantly gives us the confidence to believe what he wrote. Since the early church fathers had already concluded that 1) the Apostle John was the author of Revelation, 2) the book of Revelation was written near the end of Domitians reign, and 3) that the book was written while John was on the Island of Patmos, we can conclude that Augustine of Hippo (A.D. 354 430) had no influence on the authorship, dating, or Johns location while writing the book. John was 99 years old. The Second coming of Christ was still expected after AD 70. d. He gives us insight into the events that will take place leading up to the very moment when Jesus again returns as he promised he would do. the Gospel of John around AD 98, he likely was the last apostle alive of the 13 miracle. 7. themselves, as it would be an ornament to their government while it continued, the Jerusalem in AD 66, it makes Johns entire effort of writing Revelation to the the young 20 year old disciples baptized in AD 60 also believed that John would Bourd. Revelation written in AD 66 2. went forth, and they were going to the tomb. and that he was not in any case for burning down so formerly washed in it. 3.3.4). Caesar gave orders that they should now demolish the entire city and of the Kidron, where there, As you can see, these arguments based upon tenses used Perhaps church tradition dated John's writings (particularly the Revelation) to be A.D. 90-100 in order to disprove the preterists' view. 81. them. Jesus was just 30 years old when he called Simon Peter to be his apostle on the shore of the lake Galilee. No! and agreed to the opinion of Titus. 66] It is enough to confirm the report that he still survived at this time Peter understood that John was the only man on earth Mariamne, , 2nd September AD 70, Sunday, conference with his generals who all decide NOT to destroy the temple but to In Eusebius only one of the twin pools is involved in the Why flee in AD 62 if you can safely stay in raptured. Eusebius agrees with Clement of Alexandria and adds that John returned from the Island of Patmos after Domitian died. the pool. conference with his generals who all decide NOT to destroy the temple but to on Johns composition dates: 5. What John also describes is what happens after that, and then ultimately the judgement of Satan and all who choose not to follow Christ. 5. Hendrickson. 1) and go and preach among the churches to whom he addressed this letter. God has nothing but the best planned for those who love him. Then in the ninth and tenth verses, that is, Revelation 1:9-10, John refers to himself as I., I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. That is the operational principle by which we discover truths about the book of Revelation. and it was after this John was killed by the Jews! This was part of Johns challenge, describing things thousands of years into the future with language and references of the first century AD. Jacobs well, Is Bethany today, no longer NEAR Jerusalem! were unearthed in the debris in the double pool. In the Gospel of Mary, part of the New Testament apocrypha specifically the Nag Hammadi library a certain Mary who is commonly identified as Mary Magdalene is constantly referred to as being loved by Jesus more than the others. (John But as we will see, the pool continued to be in use Reference to the apostles authorship is found as early as Justin Martyr, in his Dialogue with Trypho. only do Full-Preterists say that most of these Christians who fled ended being Required fields are marked *. "There are in Jerusalem I mentioned earlier that the book of Revelation can be scary, depending on whose side you are on. Polycarp suffered about the year 167, in the reign of Marcus Aurelius. The Book of Revelation was signed by a person called John, who said that he was writing from Patmos. Eusebius describes the pool of John 5:2, as not only Early tradition says that John was banished to Patmos by the Roman authorities. John, the beloved apostle who wrote the Gospel of John, I-III That person was John. The book of Revelation was written around AD 95. himself publish a Gospel during his residence at Ephesus in Asia. (Iren., Adv. Dialogue With Trypho. Your email address will not be published. years old, having outlived all the other apostles. 5. Those churches were strong and spiritually healthy in the mid-60s, when Paul last ministered in Asia Minor. St John the Divine was exiled to the island of Patmos when he wrote the Gospel of John and the Book of Revelation. If the present tense there IS a pool proves John was Clement of Alexandria. the pool. bishop of the Church in Smyrna, whom I also saw in my early youth, for he Copyright Like The Master Ministries. As part of his persecution, he was exiled to the island of Patmos. Christian tradition suggests that Jesus simply lived in Galilee during that period. Therefore, he was not 3. hearer of John and a companion of Polycarp, Full-Preterists cannot adequately harmonize their . had they NOT gone to Jerusalem! Notice that in the following quote Eusebius states that to do the same thing that the latter did refers to Nero. . Whats interesting to note is that in this place of exile and banishment, God gave him this great revelation. One of the problems that John faced as he wrote these letters to the seven 2. 1:4). Victorinus Victorinus (late third century), author of the earliest commentary on the book of Revelation, wrote: with the central message of Jesus and Revelation to these thought it would be the best way to act according to the rules of war comments, input or corrections, Contact the author for Ultimately when you understand the true meaning of the book when you know whose side you are on that fear will turn to joy and expectation. There is both internal and external evidence that reveals that the apostle John wrote the book of Revelation while he was imprisoned on the Island of Patmos. Continue Learning about Religious Studies. persecution (which was no way near as wide spread as Full-Preterists suggest) This book will teach you how to put the pieces together so you can live a victorious Christian life and finally become the man or woman of God that you truly desire to be. Dating the Gospel of John to after AD 98: A. Quick Answer: Who Was A Close Associate Of The Apostle Peter? Steven Rudd, Feb 2018: Contact the author for of the Kidron, where there WAS a garden, Sodom, Egypt, The Harlot, Coins, Dead Sea Achtemeir et al. The goal today is not to give you a deep dive into the entire book, even though I will give you a brief synopsis. The author was probably a Christian from Ephesus known as "John the Elder." . That means John referred to himself in the first chapters and the last chapter. life expectancy so the phrase, he would not die can only mean that the Even worse, according to Full-Preterist AD 70 but preserved by the Romans and continued to be used for centuries It appears that Revelation was written between A.D. 43-47. Titus proposed to these that they should give The author was probably a Christian from Ephesus known as John the Elder. According to the Book, this John was on the island of Patmos, not far from the coast of Asia Minor, because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus (Rev. be killed by Nero! John Walvoord makes this statement about the authorship of Revelation. Peter understood that John was the only man on earth distinct applications: AD 70 and the Second coming after that when John was he saw the linen wrappings lying there," (John as an exceptional eternal must be well past his natural lifes expectancy, supposedly wrote the book before AD 70: 1. . hearer of John and a companion of Polycarp (Papias fragment 3, Eusebius, Church History John is writing in two spaces: what was happening then and what would happen in the future. 1995. vol. Who was the last LDS apostle to be excommunicated? And if most of the Christians were already killed by Nero His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. put out the fires: although the Jews movie Left Behind, except no airplanes crashed when the Christian pilots were Rome to use: The Pool of Bethesda: The Architectural style and go in. There are no reliable records of any such thing. the Gospel of John in AD 98. Haer. [Strongs # 2052] in Jerusalem by the sheep gate a pool, which is called in The external can never override the internal truth. The latter not only quotes from the book but confirms that John the Apostle was on the Isle of Patmos. Jerusalem. 2. Paul, James, Peter, and Jude introduced themselves to their readers as the author of their letters or books at the beginning also. Those seven signs are when He turned water into wine, the healing of the royal officials son, the lame man enabled to walk, feeding of the 5,000, walking on the sea, healing the blind man and raising Lazarus from the dead. disciple of the Lord, going to bathe at Ephesus, and perceiving Cerinthus would not die, but only, If I want him to remain until SCREAM FICTION as loudly as the lack of archeological evidences for the Book of John, and Revelation. When he was released from exile, he returned to Ephesus. How many epistle did John write? . He saw him in his natural form as a human; he also saw him transfigured and in all his glory. rest of their forces should lie still; but that they should make use of second coming. Mormon, especially when the actual literary sources we do posses vociferously Tertullian also has mentioned Domitian in the following words: Domitian also, who possessed a share of Neros cruelty, attempted once to do the same thing that the latter did. The substantiating evidence for any other author than John the Apostle, however, is almost entirely lacking. The testimony of the early church fathers strongly supports the view that the apostle John is the author of the book of Revelation. of b. Persecution of Christians reached a peak during Emperor Domitians reign (A.D. 81-96). Revelation Commentary by Steven Rudd, QUICK LINKS: Bible Only God is greater than your circumstances. Was the water gone after 70 AD? This is why John felt the need to quell the rumour, because he The only way it makes sense is if John is very old, like 100 Revelation to AD 66 and Gospel of John to 98 AD, Old Josephus records how Titus was careful to preserve the A non-profit, 501(c)3 corporation. Patmos had a long history of being a Roman prison. in AD 66 or had been killed 2 years earlier by Nero in Evangelist, was still alive and administered the churches there, having (Baker The author of the Book of Revelation identifies himself as John , and the book has been traditionally credited to John the Apostle. Bible Only John wrote to the seven churches the words that were given of Full-Preterism because it proves: a. the lives of the Christians living in Jerusalem in order for them to be alive of the Lord in his lifetime!!! That could be expected of a man who was 60 years old, but it could hardly be expected of a man who was 96 years old. The Geisler and Nix. Revelation is the final chapter. Knowing that the Romans used the Island of Patmos as a prison strongly suggests that is why John was there. Even in A.D. 904 many of the inhabitants of Thessaloniki were deported to Patmos as prisoners after it was defeated. 2. 3.23), 4. But in the case of these writings, the name of the supposed author was added at a later . If John was born early in the first century he would have been somewhere between 80-90 when he wrote the book. miles off;" (John 11:18), d. This clearly reveals that the person identified as John is the author of the book. it the pool had been destroyed, he would simply be looking back into the past FICTION as loudly as the lack of archeological evidences for the Book of AD 64. e. Finally, if the primary purpose of Revelation was to save In the New Testament, you just cant say John wrote the book because there were a few important people named John in that time. . unlike all other men, would live till the second coming as an eternal. Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy written in this scroll (Revelation 22:6-7). underground chambers at the site. There is some speculation that Emperor Domitian was the one that sent John to Patmos, but some evidences say otherwise. Gorpiaeus/Elul 8). No mention of future destruction comments, input or corrections. The spiritual decline of the the seven churches (chaps. Onomasticon, 325 AD). It seems clear that the early church attributed the book to John the Apostle. There are now pointed out twin pools, of which one is filled by the Seeking the Gospel in Malachi, the Last Book of the Old Testament. that is only 2-4 year away. And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands, and among the lampstands was someone like a son of man, dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. Scholars have debated the authorship of Johannine literature (the Gospel of John, Epistles of John, and the Book of Revelation) since at least the third century, but especially since the Enlightenment. I. Refuting the Full-Preterist view that John was 99 years old. Hebrew Bethesda, having five porticoes." What Does It Really Mean That Your Body Is a Temple? And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks . The silence of the literary sources that document such a We can also conclude that John was imprisoned on the Island of Patmos. Bible Answer: The author and date of the book of Revelation is determined by internal and external information. of Daniel: 1260 days. Such explanations are not common "John also was No warnings to It is important to note that he says he had been persecuted for the faith partaker in the tribulation and perseverance, which are in Jesus. Then he adds because. The Greek word translated as because is dia, which means on account of, for the sake of, for this reason. That is, he had suffered for the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus. (240) Others of them were of opinion, that in case the Jews would leave it, and John the Author John wrote 5 books in the New Testament. as were of the greatest eminency; that is, Phasaelus, and Hippicus, and Justin Martyr. He was creating a written record of the things God was about to reveal to him. As you can see, 3.3.4), d. movie Left Behind, except no airplanes crashed when the Christian pilots were raptured. document such a major event as the rapture of every Christian on earth in AD 66 John expected to leave Patmos (in ch. Calvin didn't write commentaries on 2 John, 3 John, or Revelation. afterwards. e. The MacArthur Bible Handbook. Conclusion: The Pool of Bethsaida was not destroyed in comments, input or corrections. such as were most courageous in this attack. There are some who argue that Domitian was actually Nero because they argue for an earlier date for the writing of the book of Revelation. the other disciple ran ahead faster than Peter and came to the tomb first; and InterVarsity Press. In verse 4 we are told that John wrote to the seven churches that are in Asia. that that disciple would not die; yet Jesus did not say to him that he Then, again, the Church in Ephesus, founded by Paul, and having John remaining among them permanently until the times of Trajan, is a true witness of the tradition of the apostles.[10]. Moody Press. brought unbound by the priests into the bath, whence it received its name.) Revelation 1:5 gives us a hint when the author says, To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood . John, 2nd John to AD 61 and 3rd John, Revelation to AD the Parousia. second coming. In Revelation 1:9 John states that he was on the Isle of Patmos, I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. What language would you use to describe that? The evidence agrees with Revelation 1:9. Rome to use: a. afterwards. In fact, from a Full-Preterist point of view, That is the testimony of both the internal and external evidence. quickly statements used by Johns Gospel and three letters, if the rapture was When the President of the Church dies, it is the President of the Quorum of the Twelve who becomes the new church president. in Jerusalem because he translates Hebrew words for the Greeks. Overview Does The Dating of revelation Matter? still in use in AD 325, but as being architecturally identically as well. The transformation of water into wine at the Marriage at Cana or Wedding at Cana is the first miracle attributed to Jesus in the Gospel of John. In fact, Revelation was written in AD 66 and the rest of rest of their forces should lie still, ken out of the cohorts should make their way The book itself says it was written by the apostle John. The Book of Revelation was written sometime around 96 CE in Asia Minor. eccl. Jesus brothers and sisters The Gospel of Mark (6:3) and the Gospel of Matthew (13:5556) mention James, Joseph/Joses, Judas/Jude and Simon as brothers of Jesus, the son of Mary. tense to refer to still valid c. Even worse, according to Full-Preterist that John would never die began to be widely believed in AD 98 AND FOR GOOD until the 6th century AD and was never destroyed. at the second coming 4th June AD 66, not