We believe that all the redeemed, once saved are kept by God's power and are thus secure in Christ forever. Why do people think that I dont have time to pray for loved ones simply because I have this site up? The list is quite helpful just in case one is wondering if theyre living through the motions or not though, but some things are definitely unbiblical to do whether youre IFB or not. That is contrary to Bible doctrine for a pastor. God divorced Israel but Not judah..Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of WHAT?? We believe the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be the Bible, as it is in truth, the Word of God (I Thessalonians 2:13). [7], The New IFB currently lists 30 affiliated congregations on their website. I, too, would never go back to many of the churches that I have been to, but if you search, you will find one that will cause you to grow in your faith and knowledge, and to change and to believe what God has said. 10. Im so thankful for Gods grace on your life and the lives of your family. WebEvery active member wishing to speak shall rise and respectfully address the moderator. What your pastor told you is a severe twisting of scripture (if he even used scripture). Baptism means that a believer is bodily immersed in water followed by being raised up Those are my concerns about the 25 topics about the Independent Fundamental Baptist beliefs. But what He hates about us is the pride and arrogance in us. We believe his power is supernatural, yet limited; and that he cannot act without the permission of God (Job 1:6-12; I John 4:4). I did read it but I still dont understand their beliefs on it.. I have 3 children I sometimes spank I sometimes lecture. around the world wherever our Lord directs. If you believe that the IFB isnt a denomination because they are Independent, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 37. 2. 7 You hypocrites! 32. If you think that more than one earring per ear for women is worldly, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 13. If your your church funnels in the inner city kids via a bus ministry We dont have a bus ministry since the city of the church I go to is small. As of 2019, the New IFB listed 32 affiliated congregations on its website, most in the U.S. with some in Australia, Canada, the Philippines and South Africa. They are shared in my article about tithing: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/. I can count on one hand the number of IFBs whove asked for a discussion instead of attacking me. If your pastor is a true scholar of the Bible and is on fire with eagerness to teach it, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. If the people in your church are truly humble, forgive easily, and believe that everyone is worthy of grace, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. I think its easy to look at the pastor as an authority figure, someone who holds some position above you, but most of them just want that connection with you, they care, they love you, they just want whats best for you. We only care when we see new faces in the church, whether guests or new members. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ was raised bodily and that He ascended to Heaven and is now exalted at the right hand of God, where, as our High Priest, He fulfills the ministry of Representative, Intercessor, and Advocate (Acts 1:9-10; Hebrews 9:24, 7:25; Romans 8:34; I John 2:1-2). Our accountability comes through a board of directors comprised of 24 independent fundamental Baptist pastors who, in turn, were elected to serve as directors by independent fundamental Baptist pastors. WebGetting to it. Yes, believers disagree, theres nothing wrong with that. Is that what the great commission tells us to do: Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and send lost loved ones to an IFB church so that they might be saved (DHV Don Holt Version). Also God commands us to try the spirits to see if they are of God that implies God gave us the power of discernment 1 John 4: 1-5. G.F.F. Im still separate I have just decided to sin. This is an independent fundamental Baptist program that has chapters in churches all across the country. Youre supposed to read the word daily, it says give us this day our daily bread. Seeing 2 brothers in Christ debase a conversation (be it one or both parties) to snide remarks, tasteless jabs, and condescension as a form or response, makes us all look bad. I actually looked up the word just now (Random House Websters College Dictionary), and here are the definitions: 3.) The women that I befriended in this church will always be my sister in Christ. 35. Whether we worship with hymns or hands int he air praise and worship songs, we are all suppose to be on the same side. Id rather do the hard work than be a robot though. You obviously didnt read the entire list see number 47. If I chose to forgive him there would be hope for our relationship. We dont forgive people for their salvation we cant because we arent Jesus. This led to calls to evict Stedfast Baptist Church from its location at a strip mall in Watauga, Texas. WebSecond, it is Fundamental. If you believe that secular psychology is worldly/sinful, but dont think that other areas of medicine are OK, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 45. Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. We believe that the sign gifts of the Holy Spirit, such as speaking in tongues and the gift of healing, were temporary. According to the ADL "Anti-LGBTQ bigotry and antisemitism are fundamental to New IFB ideology, as demonstrated by the doctrinal statements on their websites and the content of their sermons. It is awful that they put the rules and instructions of their mythology ahead of their love for Please dont mistake this for a lack of respect or an attempt to minimize the seriousness of the abuse that happens among the Independent Fundamental Bapitsts. Inspired by Jeff Foxworthys You Might Be A Redneck IfI came up with a similar list of items for the IFB. If this method were a stock, who would invest in it with such a low return. 46. We believe that God created the entire universe in six literal, twenty-four-hour days (Genesis 1:1-27). 14. If you think that any rational thought is dangerous because it may lead you to believe something different than what the IFB believes, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 50. They said no mixed bathing. If you think that homosexuality is an unforgivable sin Thats not true. To the author, I hope youll be okay someday and if you can find a way to dig out that root I think youll find peace. In thinking back, I see that the church was filled with tiny idols like that. If you are careful to not show any emotion while singing for fear that you could be considered dancing, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 33. 26 You blind Pharisee! I have an old high school friend here with me who started visiting churches. Our path is narrow, must we fight amongst each other while we walk it? Hope you have a great day! If I have misunderstood I apologize. The key is that youre not suppose to JUST sit under the teaching/preaching of anyone without reading the Bible, seeking wisdom from God, and fellow shipping with people who are interested in drawing closer to God. I understand others dont like hearing God gave inspiration to the Kjv, but its true. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. More insights from your Bible study - Get Started with Logos Bible Software for Free! I dont think it applies to all IFB churches, the ones I grew up in didnt do some of these, but the rest definitely apply. If you look down on people who are divorced, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 38. We believe that the clear message of salvation is repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21). If you attend a church that has a team of men who are charged with keeping an attendance count each Sunday, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 43. If you think that tithing 10% of your gross income is the minimum, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 6. Satan's eternal end is everlasting torment in the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:10). If Just As I Am causes you to repent and go to the altar, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. You should do something else with the time God has aloud you.Nonsense is not what people need to hear. For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: Ive used tattoos but not permanent ones. I read Matthew 23 just before writing. If you think that tithing of ten percent of your income is the minimum I dont have any position on this even though I do believe in tithes and offerings. "[3], The New IFB was formed by Anderson and other Baptist pastors in 2017 in an attempt to revive what they perceived older independent Baptist churches once represented. We affirm without apology the doctrines frequently identified as the Fundamentals of the Faith, which include the deity, virgin birth, sinless life, substitutionary death, bodily resurrection, and imminent return of Jesus Christ. Im not IFB but I still believe in tithes and offerings. In 1974 Kenneth Chrismans father passed away. (Acts 20:7, Hebrews 10:24-25). your comments are offensive, you are narrow minded. So spontaneous but like it was planned. Deacons help the pastor care for the flock so he can give priority to prayer and the ministry of the Word. Clearly only one unforgivable sin is mentioned in the Bible (KJV even) and that isnt it. In fact, if you're single you know what I'm talking about. No, thats silly! Webindependent Baptist, to place in the hands of members of independent Baptist churches to help them to know the meaning of church membership and to better understand the doctrines and polity of Baptists, and particularly the reasons why we are independent Baptists and not affiliated with one of the various and sundry organizations among However, it wasnt Baptists that ordained him and of the IFB folks I know, they are lukewarm to the Scofield bible. I received these because of lies that I was single with no income. 6. The Duggar family, so much in the news lately, are Independent Fundamental Baptists (IFB), a loosely affiliated, singularly cultish denomination of (Mat 22:37-40) Can you honestly say that this is of God. Im happy to defend my position, but I dont tolerate assumptions, attacks, accusations, judgments, bullying or anything of the like. 38. 48. You are quick to throw in a jab about how much you dislike them, but cannot tolerate anyone saying different. Christ suffered and I have to admit its a lot less work than actually thinking through things. (Matthew 28:19-20; Romans 6:4; 1 Corinthians 11:23-32), Every individual, believer and unbeliever, possesses the God-given privilege of free will having the liberty to choose what to believe. I was told that I could not work in one of my passionate ministries, infant, toddler, and 3-4 year olds because of something I did in my past 14 years ago and pastor told me I have to prove myself first. I could come to him with anything that was bothering or troubling me and he NEVER judged me or held me in contempt by making me feel like I was less than or not good enough. Maybe you had a bad experience or many years of bad experiences at an IFB church, but that will never excuse you from bad mouthing any of Gods people or the many IFB churches the Lord uses to spread His word or send missionaries to the remotest parts of the world to seek those who are lost. For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the lawjustice, mercy, and faith. Whats wrong with a tract rack? We believe that any form of homosexuality, lesbianism, bisexuality, beastiality, incest, fornication, adultery, and pornography is a sinful perversion of God's original intent for a physical relationship between a husband and wife. Some true, some not so much. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. I would have rejected the advice if in my heart If didnt want the relationship anymore, but we had a kid and I needed it to work. I know you scoff at my pity but there it is. Its NOT ABOUT US! Pastors daughter did my hair and cleaned my dress with baby wipes. I forgave him before he changed. I am unsure if she was already a member before her husband passed or not. I will never forget that day that I sat in my pastors car and he prayed with me, he didnt know what was happening in my life, but he knew I needed someone to pray with and I could see it in his eyes. But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. We had been boyfriend and girlfriend for 5 years and a baby that was 10 months old. Years ago, I heard a very funny but truthful skit on what was or wasnt OK. Each verse ended with, Its OK, because Independent Fundamental Baptist Preachers do it.. (John 3:36; Romans 14:4-12;2 Corinthians 4:2; Titus 1:9), Local church membership is restricted to individuals who give a believable testimony of personal faith in Christ and have publicly identified with Him in believer's baptism. (II Corinthians 12:12; I Corinthians 13:8; Hebrews 2:3-4; Mark 16:17-20; I Corinthians 1:22, 14:21-22). WebBaptists reject the notion of baptism of people who do not know what is happening to them, such as children. If you think that having a disagreement with a fellow Christian means that you are sowing discord with the brethren, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 53. Ephesians 2:8-9 This list reminded me of a few I forgot about, but one I dont think youve mentioned yet is If your teenage boys and girls have to be separate and swim in different pools or at different times when you are on a teen outing or camping trip lol. The New IFB began with Steven Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in response to perceived liberalism in other independent Baptist churches. [4], Despite the website's claims that each church is independent, some followers and former followers of the New IFB have accused Anderson of having complete control over the organization and ejecting anyone who has a minor disagreement with him. Im not sure where your pastor got that from, but its not in the Bible. For you are like whitewashed tombsbeautiful on the outside but filled on the inside with dead peoples bones and all sorts of impurity. Every proposition presented for action of the church must be introduced by motion of one member and seconded by another. If the IFB churches are hurting the cause of Christ, would your attitude and example also hurt His cause. What surprises me, though, is that he was ordained as a pastor and actually called to pastor DL Moodys church in Massachusetts as a divorced man. This is the only church Ive been to, so I just awsume all Churchs are loving, caring, forgiving, honest, and strive to bring glory to god and its just sad to here that thats not the case. We dont believe if you get rid of all the sin in your life youll be a completely healthy person. (Ephesians 2:8-10; John 1:12; I Peter 1:18-19). No one should be forced to any belief against his or her will. My writing tends to be somewhat heavy and serious so every once in a while I like to add some humor to lighten things up a bit.